Läsa Bibeln...

[watertouch]

HEJ!.. Har uppmärksammat på dem senaste serierna/filmerna jag sett så har dem citerat diverse bibelverser.

Har inte direkt läst/lärt mig om bibellära sen när jag var kanske 7-12 år... Då berätta lärarna vid tidig ålder "sagor"... Sen senare blandades Romarna/Romarriket in och korsfästningen.

Inte konfimerad lr ens döpt... Tror väll inte på nått, kanske Oden och Tor dock

Enda jag läst nyligen är Uppenbaralseboken mest för att jag hört att det skulle va lite "spådomar" om framtiden... 666 the number of the beast... Och om Malört som typ skulle heta Tjernobyl på Ryska, o så...


Funderar dock nu på att läsa igenom Bibeln...

Så frågan är till er som fått för er att läsa den... Ger den nått??


Om ej religöst så kanske lite historia/kultur från Gamla Testamentet, o sen nya...?

Känns ju som att man nån gång nu när man är äldre och förstår mer vad som menas att man borde läsa boken. Av ren nyfikenhet kanske, hade jag haft en Koranen bok kanske jag skulle känna för att läsa den... Och öhh ja Discovery channel och Viasat History kollar man på rätt flitigt.

[CiB]

Ja och jag anser att, GT (Gamla Testamentet) är inte riktigt lika intressant som NT (Nya Testamentet) dock.

Vad gäller Bibeln om man inte är troende så kan det ibland vara svårt att ta till sig det som står skrivet i den. Det kan vara svårt att bedöma Bibeln som vilken slags bok det egentligen ska vara.

Jag har ibland i mitt liv läst Bibeln i olika syften, inte sträckvis från pärm till pärm, utan vissa valda delar.

Man kan läsa Bibeln med öppet sinne och utan tvång och press, ta sig tid om man vill att tänka & reflektera över vad som står i den, och tänka genom vilka är mina egna värderingar i livet.

[Trance]

Tänk på att bibeln inte är ett litterärt mästerverk utan delar av den är väldigt tråkig. Du tjänar nog på att låta någon som kan den peka ut de bättre böckerna i den.

[CiB]

Ursprungligen postat av Trance

Tänk på att bibeln inte är ett litterärt mästerverk utan delar av den är väldigt tråkig. Du tjänar nog på att låta någon som kan den peka ut de bättre böckerna i den.

Tycker du ja. Finns de som hävdar motsatsen.
Värt att minnas: Att gilla en bok och klassa den som litterärt mästerverk är ett starkt subjektivt begrepp.

[Sverker]

Alf Henrisson har skrivit Biblisk historia.
Lättläst och intressant. Hela GT är vår tidiga histroria så boken ger en enkel inroduktion till vår historia.


Läs Evangelierna och Apostlagärningarna i NT. Även om du inte tror, är det bra berättelser. Intressant att följa de första kristna genom medelhavet till Rom.

[JustinCredible]

Jag trodde Bibeln innehöll massor av motsägelser och vetenskapliga fel, fram tills att en superkristen kille på ett annat forum gjorde en tråd där han gav svar på varenda fråga som fanns. Gick verkligen inte att hitta något fel alls i Bibeln.. Blev nästan omvänd.

[Solros]

Ursprungligen postat av JustinCredible

Jag trodde Bibeln innehöll massor av motsägelser och vetenskapliga fel, fram tills att en superkristen kille på ett annat forum gjorde en tråd där han gav svar på varenda fråga som fanns. Gick verkligen inte att hitta något fel alls i Bibeln.. Blev nästan omvänd.

Typ som med LCHF då

[Civilrätt]

Tycker istället du ska sätta dig med lagboken, har du mer nytta av.

[JustinCredible]

Ursprungligen postat av Solros

Typ som med LCHF då

Vaförnåt?Vaknade nyss..

[Stoltz]

Jag läste den under 8:an till slutet på gymnasiet, tog min tid med den Det var kul att få det gjort, stundtals jävligt tråkig, ibland blev man förbannad, men man får en intressant insikt i många saker som kommer från bibeln.

[Honken]

Gamla testamentet! ♥

Våldtäckt, mord, slaveri, mänskliga offringar osv.

Ursprungligen postat av JustinCredible

Jag trodde Bibeln innehöll massor av motsägelser och vetenskapliga fel, fram tills att en superkristen kille på ett annat forum gjorde en tråd där han gav svar på varenda fråga som fanns. Gick verkligen inte att hitta något fel alls i Bibeln.. Blev nästan omvänd.

Inga motsägelser?

LÅNG TEXT!

Think not that I come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
- Matthew 10:34

... all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
- Matthew 26:52



For wrath killeth the foolish man...
- Job 5:2

... let not the sun go down on your wrath.
- Ephesians 4:26



And no man hath ascended up to heaven, even the Son of man which
is in heaven.
- John 3:13

... and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
- 2 Kings 2:11



If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
- John 5:31

I am one that bear witness of myself...
- John 8:18
[Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]



A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children...
- Proverbs 13:22

Sell that ye have and give alms...
- Luke 12:33



Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord... Wealth and riches
shall be in his house...
- Psalms 112:1-3

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than
for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.
- Matthew 19:24



I and my father are one.
- John 10:30

... I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
- John 14:28
[Jesus was the speaker in both of these quotes]



Thou shalt not kill
- Exodus 20:13

Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his
side... and slay every man his brother...
- Exodus 32:27



Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.
- Exodus 20:8

The new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot
away with: it is iniquity.
- Isaiah 3:22



Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness
of anything that is in heaven... earth... [or] water.
- Leviticus 26:11

And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt
thou make them.
- Exodus 25:18



For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works.
- Ephesians 2:8-9

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by
faith only.
- James 2:24



God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man,
that he should repent.
- Numbers 23:19

And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his
people.
- Exodus 32:14



... the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall
hear his voice, and come forth...
- John 5:28-29

As the cloud is consumed and vanisheth away: so he that goeth
down to the grave shall come up no more.
- Job 7:9



... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth,
hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for
wound, stripe for stripe.
- Exodus 21:23-25

... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right
cheek, turn to him the other also.
- Matthew 5:39



Honor thy father and mother.
- Exodus 20:12

If any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, and
wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own
life also, he cannot be my disciple.
- Luke 14:26



Lay not up for yourself treasures upon the earth...
- Matthew 6:19

In the house of the righteous is much treasure...
- Proverbs 15:6



I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
- Genesis 32:30

No man hath seen God at any time.
- John 1:18



The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father.
- Ezekiel 18:20

... I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of
the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth
generation.
- Exodus 20:5



Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth
understanding.
- Proverbs 3:13

For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth
knowledge increaseth sorrow.
- Ecclesiastes 1:18



The Lord is good to all.
- Psalm 145:6

I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things.
- Isaiah 45:7



Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.
- Matthew 5:22

[Jesus said] Ye fools and blind.
- Matthew 23:17



For all have sinned.
- Romans 3:23

There was a man... whose name was Job; and that man was perfect
and upright.
- Job 1:1



Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.
- 2 Kings 8:26

Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign.
- 2 Chronicles 22:2



If a man vow a vow unto the Lord or swear an oath... he shall do
according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.
- Numbers 30:2

But I say unto you, swear not at all; neither by heaven... nor by
earth.
- Matthew 5:34-35



... the earth abideth forever.
- Ecclesiastes 1:4

... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and
the works that are therein shall be burned up.
- 2 Peter 3:10



... for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger
forever.
- Jeremiah 3:12

Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever.
- Jeremiah 17:4



... God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.
- James 1:13

And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt
Abraham.
- Genesis 22:1



And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good.
- Genesis 1:31

And it repented the Lord that he had made man on earth, and it
grieved him at his heart
- Genesis 6:6



For now have I chosen and sanctified this house that my name be
there forever; and mine eyes and my heart shall be there
perpetually.
- II Chronicles 7:16

Howbeit the most high dwelleth not in temples made with hands.
- Acts 7:48



[God dwells] in the light which no man can approach unto.
- I Timothy 6:16

The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness.

- I Kings 8:12



And the Lord called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid.
- Genesis 3:9,10

Ye hath neither heard his voice, at any time, nor seen his shape.
- John 5:37



Then went up Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the
elders of Israel. And they saw the God of Israel... They saw
God, and did eat and drink.
- Exodus 24: 9-11

Whom no man hath seen nor can see.
- I Timothy 6:16



With God all things are possible.
- Matthew 29:26

And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of
the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the
valley, because they had chariots of iron.
- Judges 1:19



God is not the author of confusion.
- I Corinthians 24:33

Out of the mouth of the most high proceedeth not evil and good?
- Lamentations 3:38



Those that seek me early shall find me.
- Proverbs 8:17

Then shall they call upon me but I will not answer; they shall
seek me early, but shall not find me.
- Proverbs 1:28



On the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of
atonement; it shall be a holy convocation unto you; and ye shall
afflict your souls and offer an offering made by fire unto the
Lord.
- Leviticus 23:27

For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day
that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt
offering or sacrifices.
- Jeremiah 7:22



And the priest shall burn all on the altar to be a burnt
sacrifice, an offering made by fire, of a sweet savor unto the
Lord.
- Leviticus 1:9

Your burnt offering are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet
unto me.
- Jeremiah 7:20



God is not a man, that he should lie
- Numbers 23:19

And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the
Lord have deceived that prophet.
- Ezekiel 24:9



There is none other God but one.
- I Corinthians 8:4

And God said, Let us make man in our image.
- Genesis 1:26



When ye go, ye shall not go empty; but every woman shall borrow
of her neighbor, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels
of silver and jewels of gold, and raiment; and ye shall put them
on your sons and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the
Egyptians.
- Exodus 3:21,22

Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor, nether rob him.
- Leviticus 19:13



At the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of
man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.
- Genesis 4:5,6

And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should
kill him.
- Genesis 4:15



Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not,
neither do they spin... if God so clothe the grass of the
field... shall he not much more clothe you? Therefore, take no
thought, saying what shall we eat? or what shall we drink? or
wherewithal shall we be clothed?... Take, therefore, no thought
for the morrow.
- Matthew 6:28, 30-34

But if any provideth not for his own, especially for those of his
own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an
infidel.
- I Timothy 5:8



Be ye angry and sin not.
- Ephesians 4:26

Be not hasty in they spirit to be angry; for anger resideth in
the bosom of fools.
- Ecclesiastes 7:9



Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
works.
- Matthew 5:16

Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of
them.
- Matthew 6:1



And Solomon stood before the alter of the Lord, in the presence
of all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands
toward heaven...
- I Kings 7:22

When thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are; for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues, and in the corners
of the streets, that they may be seen of men...
- Matthew 6:5



And no razor shall come on his head; for the child shall be a
Nazarite unto God from the womb.
- Judges 8:5

Doth not even nature itself teach you, that if a man hath long
hair, it is a shame unto him?
- I Corinthians 6:14



Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
- Exodus 20:8

One man esteemeth one day above another; another esteemeth every
day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
- Romans 14:5



For in the six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore the
Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
- Exodus 20:11

And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and
that the Lord thy God brought the out thence through a mighty
hand and by a stretched-out arm; therefore the Lord thy God
commanded the to keep the Sabbath day.
- Deuteronomy 5:15



There is nothing unclean of itself.
- Romans 14:14

Nevertheless, these shall ye not eat, of them that chew the cud or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel and the hare, and the coney; for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof, therefore they are unclean unto you. And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.
- Deuteronomy 14:7,8



Cursed is he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother.
- Deuteronomy 27:22

And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
- Genesis 20:11,12



If brethren dwell together, and one of them die and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger; her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife.
- Deuteronomy 25:5

If a man shall take his brother's wife, it is an unclean thing... they shall be childless.
- Leviticus 20:21



He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness.
- Mark 3:29

And by him that believe are justified from all things.
- Acts 13:39



[John the Baptist] is Elias which was for to come.
- Matthew 11:14

And they asked him, what then? Art thou [John the Baptist] Elias? And he saith, I am not.
- John 1:21



Now, after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee,
preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
- Mark 1:14

After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judea... and John was also baptizing Enon... for John was not yet cast into prison.
- John 3:22-24



And it was in the third hour, and they crucified him.
- Mark 25:3-4

And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, behold your king... Shall I crucify your king?
- John 19:14-15



They gave him vinegar to drink, mingled with gall.
- Matthew 27:34

And they gave him to drink, wine mingled with myrrh.
- Mark 15:23
[Jesus was the thirsty chap in both verses.]



And the men which journeyed with [Paul] stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
- Acts 9:7

And they that were with me [Paul] saw indeed the light and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
- Acts 22:9



Abraham had two sons; one by a bonds-maid, the other by a free woman.
- Galatians 4:22

By faith, Abraham when he was tried offered up Isaac... his only begotten son.
- Hebrews 11:17



Therefore Michal, the daughter of Saul, had no child unto the day of her death.
- II Samuel 6:23

The five sons of Michal, the daughter of Saul.
- II Samuel 21:8



And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel.
- II Samuel 24:1

And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
- I Chronicles 21:1



All power is given unto [Jesus] in heaven and in earth.
- Matthew 28:18

And [Jesus] could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk and healed them.
- Mark 6:5



There shall no evil happen to the just.
- Proverbs 12:21

Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
- Hebrews 12:6

[coxie]

En bok fler borde ta sig tid att läsa, även om man inte tror ett skit på vad som står så är det en bok som påverkat vår värld i ett par tusen år.

Om du tycker språket blir jobbigt så testa den senaste översättningen.

[snej]

Sagan om ringen är ett annat litterärt mästerverk i samma stil, annars.

[Hemi]

Läste den i högstadiet, blev rejält skärrad och uppskrämd. Lurades att tro att skapelseberättelser mm följde den verkliga naturens ordning när det i själva verket inte gjorde det alls. Börjar jag av någon anledning läsa någon slags historia så kanske jag öppnar den igen. Tänker inte racka ned på kristendomen/judendomen som sådan men de där gamla texterna skall man vara försiktig med, det har vi lärt oss av historien :/

[mikaelj]

Jag tycker särskilt om styckena där männen erbjuder sina fruar att bli våldtagna av främmande män som kommer på besök, och där folk uppmanas av Jehova att dräpa alla hedningar (judarna som stryker med är krigsoffer). Dödsstraff för att arbeta på söndagen är också bra, men rätt givet. Det bästa är nog att det är helt okej att misshandla/slå ihjäl någon som inte är oskuld när du gifter dig med henne.

Jag tycker att bibeln är en bok som har väldigt många stycken att begrunda...

...som exempel på totalt vansinne.