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Kunde inte sova så jag tänkte att Casey Viator fått för lite uppmärksamhet...
Från Olympa -82 (kan behöva vara inloggad på Youtube för att se den)
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Här poserar han läckert inoljad. :naughty:
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Undrar vad som skulle hänt om Casey´s och Mike Mentzer´s mustascher parat sig?
http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/viator/vi138.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/caseyviator/vi103.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/caseyviator/vi64.jpg
http://digilander.libero.it/iompao/c100.jpg (kolla ådrorna!!!)
MasterChief
2007-03-14, 08:22
Det här är en klassiker där Viator är runt 18 år:
http://digilander.libero.it/iompao/c76.jpg
"Rätt" bra redan som 18-åring. :)
Den här är annars en personlig favorit(näst efter hans galna sidechest):
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6443/caseyqo6.jpg
Karl_alfred
2007-03-14, 08:54
Med tanke på hur han såg ut vid 18-19 kan han inte ha utvecklats så vidare mycket muskulärt sen. Var han skadad eller vad hände? Olympia 82 är ju nämligen 11 år senare, han ser mycket mer vaskulär ut men muskulärt verkar inte mkt ha hänt.
Karl_alfred
2007-03-14, 08:57
"Rätt" bra redan som 18-åring. :)
Den här är annars en personlig favorit(näst efter hans galna sidechest):
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/6443/caseyqo6.jpg
"A lot of the small guys hide when they pose" I övrigt är bilden från 1971, då Viator var 19 år.
Ehm, kolla MasterChiefs bild och sen min bild under. Nog har det väl hänt en hel del där iaf? Men annars håller jag med dig. Han var mer massiv när han var yngre. Jag vet inte riktigt varför men jag har för mig att han gjort någon slags comeback runt -82 så han har nog haft en period där han legat lågt med träningen(jag har ett vagt minne om att jag läst något om alkoholproblem men jag är inte alls säker).
Sen tränade han förstås med Arthur Jones när han var yngre. ;)
"A lot of the small guys hide when they pose" I övrigt är bilden från 1971, då Viator var 19 år.
Jäklar, var han så ung där? Trodde han var några år äldre. :)
Nitrometan
2007-03-14, 09:05
Skoj att se att det finns fler som gillar mr Viator.
Karl_alfred
2007-03-14, 09:10
Ehm, kolla MasterChiefs bild och sen min bild under. Nog har det väl hänt en hel del där iaf? Men annars håller jag med dig. Han var mer massiv när han var yngre. Jag vet inte riktigt varför men jag har för mig att han gjort någon slags comeback runt -82 så han har nog haft en period där han legat lågt med träningen(jag har ett vagt minne om att jag läst något om alkoholproblem men jag är inte alls säker).
Sen tränade han förstås med Arthur Jones när han var yngre. ;)
Ja det hände mycket på det året, men sen olympia 82 är han ju 11-12 år äldre och muskulärt tycks ingenting ha hänt? Iaf inte märkbart?
Men sjuka resultat som 18-19 åring.
paddanboy
2007-03-14, 09:14
Ja det hände mycket på det året, men sen olympia 82 är han ju 11-12 år äldre och muskulärt tycks ingenting ha hänt? Iaf inte märkbart?
Men sjuka resultat som 18-19 åring.
Puberteten kallas det... *whistle*
bertbert
2007-03-14, 09:16
Casey tillhör mina byggarfavoriter. Brutal är ordet.
MasterChief
2007-03-14, 10:57
Ehm, kolla MasterChiefs bild och sen min bild under. Nog har det väl hänt en hel del där iaf? Men annars håller jag med dig. Han var mer massiv när han var yngre. Jag vet inte riktigt varför men jag har för mig att han gjort någon slags comeback runt -82 så han har nog haft en period där han legat lågt med träningen(jag har ett vagt minne om att jag läst något om alkoholproblem men jag är inte alls säker).
Sen tränade han förstås med Arthur Jones när han var yngre. ;)
Som Kalle redan sagt så var Viator bara ett år äldre där.
MasterChief
2007-03-14, 10:59
Shortly after Viator won the 1971 Mr. America contest, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu spent several days in Florida visiting Arthur Jones (Nautilus). Naturally, they observed Viator’s training. When Arnold returned to California, he wrote an article about Casey that was later published in Muscle Builder (June 1972). Here is what he wrote:
“Viator is a gym monster. I never witnessed such ferocious, almost suicidal training in my life. He kills the weights. He kills the equipment. And most of all he tortures himself to hysteria. He does forced reps until an observer could puke from horror. He absolutely torments himself; he turns blue in the face. He pumps so much blood into an attacked muscle that it looks like a minizeppelin. Each set is blasted past failure exactly the same way. The muscles are never shown any mercy whatsoever. They expand 200%... 300%. More. Not only that, but when a set ends, no rest. Next exercise in a flash. He switches from movement to movement. From apparatus to apparatus faster than you could take notes. He bangs away at each set until he can’t muster another muscle twitch. He flushes each body part until the limb or area is paralyzed. This is prime quality multiplied by a factor of dedication and madness no bodybuilder has ever approached. If I had to do this every day I’d opt for a hernia, go back to Austria and be a ski instructor.”
Karl_alfred
2007-03-14, 11:45
Shortly after Viator won the 1971 Mr. America contest, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu spent several days in Florida visiting Arthur Jones (Nautilus). Naturally, they observed Viator’s training. When Arnold returned to California, he wrote an article about Casey that was later published in Muscle Builder (June 1972). Here is what he wrote:
“Viator is a gym monster. I never witnessed such ferocious, almost suicidal training in my life. He kills the weights. He kills the equipment. And most of all he tortures himself to hysteria. He does forced reps until an observer could puke from horror. He absolutely torments himself; he turns blue in the face. He pumps so much blood into an attacked muscle that it looks like a minizeppelin. Each set is blasted past failure exactly the same way. The muscles are never shown any mercy whatsoever. They expand 200%... 300%. More. Not only that, but when a set ends, no rest. Next exercise in a flash. He switches from movement to movement. From apparatus to apparatus faster than you could take notes. He bangs away at each set until he can’t muster another muscle twitch. He flushes each body part until the limb or area is paralyzed. This is prime quality multiplied by a factor of dedication and madness no bodybuilder has ever approached. If I had to do this every day I’d opt for a hernia, go back to Austria and be a ski instructor.”
Du som är insatt i detta MC, varför blev det aldrig någon champ av Viator? Hans utveckling var ju till synes inte så stor heller efter de sena tonåren.
MasterChief
2007-03-14, 12:23
Du som är insatt i detta MC, varför blev det aldrig någon champ av Viator? Hans utveckling var ju till synes inte så stor heller efter de sena tonåren.
Viator var svårmotiverad och det var bara Arthur Jones som kunde få honom att träna riktigt hårt. Jones är en jävligt hård man och hela hans träningsfilosofi är förmodligen även ett resultat av hans livssyn. Den som läst hans biografi förstår vad jag pratar om. Han är extrem i alla avseenden. Jones hade inte tid att sköta om Viators träning och när han slutade så verkade inte Viator ha styrkan att fortsätta.
Här har du en liten sammanfattning över historien:
"Jones was briefly introduced to Viator at the 1970 Mr. America contest in Los Angeles, where Casey placed third. Jones had driven from his home in Lake Helen, Florida, to Los Angeles and on the way back he stopped by Red Lerille’s gym in Lafayette, Louisiana, and reassembled some of his initial Nautilus machines that he had displayed in California a week earlier. Viator lived nearby so Lerille invited him over to talk with Jones and go though a workout.
And what a training session it was. “Arthur almost killed me,” Viator remembered. “I had a tremendous pump throughout my upper body. I could feel myself actually growing during and after the workout.”
Viator had never experienced a workout like Jones put him through and Jones had never exercised anyone with Viator’s genetic potential. As a result, Jones offered Viator a job with his new company, Nautilus, and assured Viator’s parents that he’d finish his senior year in high school in Florida. Besides training Viator over the next year, Jones would make sure he entered all the national bodybuilding contests. Everyone involved agreed that this was a doable arrangement.
Thus, Viator moved from Louisiana to Florida during the latter part of June 1970. His first scheduled contests under Jones’s guidance were Teenage Mr. America, during the last week of July, followed a month later by Mr. USA.
Jones began immediately training Viator on a three-times-per-week schedule, and true to his expectations, Viator started growing. From an initial body weight of 198 pounds, three weeks later Viator weighed 205 pounds and he easily won the Teenage Mr. America. In New Orleans, a month later at the Mr. USA, Viator weighed 210 pounds and was more cut than he was when he was 5 pounds lighter. Again, he was judged an easy winner.
When Arnold Schwarzenegger and Franco Columbu visited the Nautilus headquarters in mid-November 1970, Viator weighed 215 pounds and impressed both of the professional champions. Jones predicted that Casey would be more massive, with even more definition, by the 1971 Mr. America contest, which was 6 months away.
In early 1971, because of business and travel commitments, Jones stopped personally training Viator. Viator trained himself and slowly lost muscle and gained fat. In mid-February 1971, Jones noted that Casey was down to 205 pounds and was smoother than he’s been since he moved to Florida. At about the same time, he hired Kim Wood to take charge of the Quonset Hut workout room at DeLand High School, where all the training occurred. Wood supervised Viator for six weeks and reported back to Jones that he had trouble getting Viator to give him his best effort.
Finally, it was the middle of April, a month before the Jr. Mr. America, and Jones realized that if he doesn’t return to training Casey, Casey might get beat at the national event. So, Jones refocused on his personal training, cracked the whip as only he could, and Casey responded. In two weeks, Casey’s body weight was up to 210 pounds. At the contest, he weighed 215 and blew away the competition.
On June 12th, in York, Pennsylvania, at the 1971 Mr. America, Casey weighed 218 pounds and displayed his dominance by winning the main title and five of the six subdivisions . . . all at 19 years of age.
Some years ago, I saw all the records Jones kept from training Casey during 1970 and 1971. Jones trained Casey 41 times, which was equal to approximately 4 months at the rate of 2.5 workouts a week. Casey trained himself (with a few others sometimes helping) for 6 of the 10 months.
No one could motivate Casey the way Arthur could. Jim Flanagan and I trained Casey for several months in 1978, and helped get his body weight up to 220 pounds, but it was a real chore trying to get him fired-up for the majority of his training sessions. I don’t believe Casey ever got his muscular, competitive body weight above 220.
I remember one day, we had Casey on the duo-squat machine and our goal was 20 reps with each leg, which would be more than he’d ever done with us training him. He was at rep 15 and Arthur walked into the gym with a couple of people. “Twenty reps,” Arthur repeated, after asking us about his progress, “hell, he can do 50 with each leg.” Over the next three minutes, Viator not only did 50 reps, but 2 more for good measure. With Flanagan and me pushing him, he’d have stopped at 20.
Arthur Jones frequently said that when he trained Viator, Casey got bigger and leaner, by the day. When Casey trained himself, according to Jones, he gradually lost muscle and got fatter.
Something similar to a lesser degree also happened to just about everyone who was trained by Jones. It happened to me, to Flanagan, to Boyer Coe, to Ray Mentzer. Once you had experienced Jones’s brutally hard workouts, it was difficult to duplicate them on your own."
Karl_alfred
2007-03-14, 12:36
Danke, mycket intressant :thumbup:
Chiefen: Visst är det skrivet av Ell Darden? Texten ser bekant ut iaf. :)
En annan sak som Darden brukar mena på är att Casey tränade rätt annorlunda på egen hand. När inte Jones var där brukade han träna betydligt mer(vilket ska ha gett upphov till ryktena om att han smög iväg och tränade "när ingen såg"). Träningsbehovet var väl helt enkelt otillfredsställt, eller vad man nu ska säga. När Jones tränade honom verkade det sluta som en våt trasa på golvet, för att sedan släpas vidare till nästa övning.
Efter han lämnat Jones och Nautilus verkar han ha fortsatt träna på sitt eget sätt vilket säkert kan ha haft en del med resultaten att göra. Det lär ju inte varit lätt att hitta en ersättare till AJ.
Skoj att se att det finns fler som gillar mr Viator.
Man måste ju bara gilla honom. Han har brutalmaskulin fysik, tränade brutalhårt och har en kick-ass-brutal power-mustasch. Casey är helt enkelt brutal, och dessutom sådär hardkår utan att slänga vikter tvärs över gymet.
Glömde jag säga brutal?
MasterChief
2007-03-14, 18:33
Chiefen: Visst är det skrivet av Ell Darden? Texten ser bekant ut iaf. :)
En annan sak som Darden brukar mena på är att Casey tränade rätt annorlunda på egen hand. När inte Jones var där brukade han träna betydligt mer(vilket ska ha gett upphov till ryktena om att han smög iväg och tränade "när ingen såg"). Träningsbehovet var väl helt enkelt otillfredsställt, eller vad man nu ska säga. När Jones tränade honom verkade det sluta som en våt trasa på golvet, för att sedan släpas vidare till nästa övning.
Efter han lämnat Jones och Nautilus verkar han ha fortsatt träna på sitt eget sätt vilket säkert kan ha haft en del med resultaten att göra. Det lär ju inte varit lätt att hitta en ersättare till AJ.
Jepp, det är Darden.
Nitrometan
2007-03-14, 21:12
Glömde jag säga brutal?
Jag tror du fick med det. *whistle*
rememberence
2007-03-14, 21:51
Är Casey kroppbyggare?
Jag tror du fick med det. *whistle*
Bra, bra - jag vill gärna få det till nästa inneord.
Är Casey kroppbyggare?
Vissa vill nog mena det.
Jepp, det är Darden.
Tyckte det såg bekant ut. Här har vi annars en Ell Darden favorit, som förklarar varför vi har en tråd om Casey på Kolozzeum:
At approximately 9 o'clock on the night of June 10, 1971, Viator did 13 repetitions in the squat with a 500-pound barbell. None of his reps were half squats. They were all ass-to-heels, full squats – performed after he pre-exhausted with 750 pounds on the leg press for 20 reps, followed by 225 pounds on the leg extension for another 20 reps . . . with no rest between the exercises.
That's right, Jones pushed Viator through a double pre-exhaustion cycle: leg press, leg extension, and squat, performed back-to-back-to-back . . . with very heavy weights, in good form, for maximum repetitions . . . which was the ultimate in HIGH INTENSITY.
I had never seen anything like this leg cycle. Can you imagine squatting with a 500-pound barbell 13 times . . . after pre-exhausting your thighs?
Jones was on the left side of Viator encouraging him – or I should say shouting at him: "Slow down. Hold your head up. Keep going. Don't quit. Think about that big redhead's thighs. Goddamn it, Casey, get three more. Breathe deeply. Now . . . one more."
It worked. Viator exceeded Jones's expectations. His heart rate must have been more than 220 beats per minute for at least 2 minutes. I'd never envisioned such intensity – ever.
Early in 2005, I interviewed Casey for my latest book, The New Bodybuilding for Old-School Results, and he remembered that workout well (it would be difficult to forget). "I planned to hold back a little on those squats because I knew I had a bunch more stuff to do, but with 500 pounds on my back and the adrenalin flowing, all I could do was think 'Get 10 reps.' I was really surprised when I got 12 and couldn't believe I made 13. I knew then that the workout was going to be a real bitch."
A real bitch it was. From my 45 years of training experience, that three-exercise leg cycle was the most demanding and impressive series that I've ever seen.
Jones talked about it later and stated that . . . "Paul Anderson (who, at one time, was considered the world's strongest man), in his best condition, could have duplicated Viator's leg cycle. But to do so, he'd had to have an injection of Novocain in each thigh to combat the pain. Furthermore, if Anderson had survived this feat, he'd have probably died afterward."
Viator not only performed that cycle in championship style, but after a two-minute rest and some water, he continued his workout. His next-to-last movement, in his 15-exercise routine, was the triceps extension performed on the Nautilus Combination Biceps/Triceps Machine.
Hela artikeln finns att läsa här:
http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=6B8D4134DC8A3EB2598D689A3A 8E45EF.hydra?id=409718
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