Visa fullständig version : Det finns en urgammal tradition i Kina att av hälsoskäl inte äta spannmål
Diomedea exulans
2015-10-24, 21:59
I dag går det trender att undvika kolhydrater, gluten m.m. i sin diet för att optimera sin hälsa. I relation till detta tyckte jag att det var intressant att upptäcka att det finns en månghundraårig tradition i Kina på samma tema, i synnerhet inom taoismen, som är en slags religion/filosofi. Här talar man mest om att undvika spannmål - i vissa fall all slags mat - och förklaringsmodellerna handlar naturligtvis inte om hormoner eller insulinkänslighet; snarare handlar det om demoner och maskar som lever i kroppen, om gudar, qi och annat. Resultaten som utlovas är allt från god allmänhälsa till evigt liv, emedan ätandet av spannmål ska få en att ruttna inifrån.
Här är en fullkomligen enorm artikel i ämnet, mer än tre gånger för lång för att rymmas i ett inlägg på detta forum (ja, det finns tydligen en maxgräns på 32768 tecken): https://sites.google.com/site/delawareteasociety/yoked-to-earth-a-treatise-on-corpse-demons-and-bigu
Blue Nine
2015-10-25, 07:30
Räknas 500-talet e.Kr som 'urgammal'?
Wheat gluten has been documented in China since the 6th century.[2] It was widely consumed by the Chinese as a substitute for meat, especially among adherents of Buddhism.[3] The oldest reference to wheat gluten appears in the Qimin Yaoshu, a Chinese agricultural encyclopedia written by Jia Sixie in 535.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)
förvisso är det inte direkt spannmål eftersom stärkelsen tagits bort, men grundingrediensen är vetemjöl. Fast det verkar mer populärt bland buddhister, inte taoister.
upperkatt
2015-10-25, 09:31
Sedan finns det nog väldigt mycket fel med traditionell kinesisk medicin. Ännu en anledning att gilla Jackie Chan, som strider mot detta.
Kanske bör nämnas ändå, så man inte drar för stora slutsatser.
"As a child, Jackie Chan was convinced that traditional remedies would turn him into a kung fu master – tiger bone oil would cure bruises, shark fin soup would make his skin tough and supple, rhino horn would cure cancer. As an adult, Chan has become China’s most famous actor – a martial arts all-action hero, who is unique in charming both Hollywood and Beijing."
[...]
“I was making a film in China, the government buy me a dinner,” he said. “I sit down; boom – they give me shark fin soup.
“I said put it away. I said can I have some other soup, I just don’t like shark fin soup. I start talking. Politely – it was ten years ago, and I was a foreigner from Hong Kong – but I told them.
“The second time they invited me, there was no shark fin soup. And they buy a dinner for me, for one person, but there were like 20 people around me. And if I stop, 20 people stop.”
http://www.globalanimal.org/2014/02/20/jackie-chan-combats-traditional-chinese-medicine/
Sedan finns det nog väldigt mycket fel med traditionell kinesisk medicin. Ännu en anledning att gilla Jackie Chan, som strider mot detta.
Kanske bör nämnas ändå, så man inte drar för stora slutsatser.
"As a child, Jackie Chan was convinced that traditional remedies would turn him into a kung fu master – tiger bone oil would cure bruises, shark fin soup would make his skin tough and supple, rhino horn would cure cancer. As an adult, Chan has become China’s most famous actor – a martial arts all-action hero, who is unique in charming both Hollywood and Beijing."
[...]
“I was making a film in China, the government buy me a dinner,” he said. “I sit down; boom – they give me shark fin soup.
“I said put it away. I said can I have some other soup, I just don’t like shark fin soup. I start talking. Politely – it was ten years ago, and I was a foreigner from Hong Kong – but I told them.
“The second time they invited me, there was no shark fin soup. And they buy a dinner for me, for one person, but there were like 20 people around me. And if I stop, 20 people stop.”
http://www.globalanimal.org/2014/02/20/jackie-chan-combats-traditional-chinese-medicine/
Fast det har ju mer med att de djuren är utrotningshotade.
upperkatt
2015-10-25, 14:32
Fast det har ju mer med att de djuren är utrotningshotade.
Jo, fast han ogillar också att använda sig av "medicin" utan evidens.
"Tiger oil... from tiger bone... after you get some you get healed, but I never get healed, I'm always hurt"
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/india/jackie-chan-cnn-jackie-chan-sot-668689.html
Typ.
Diomedea exulans
2015-10-25, 14:39
Sedan finns det nog väldigt mycket fel med traditionell kinesisk medicin. Ännu en anledning att gilla Jackie Chan, som strider mot detta.
Kanske bör nämnas ändå, så man inte drar för stora slutsatser.
"As a child, Jackie Chan was convinced that traditional remedies would turn him into a kung fu master – tiger bone oil would cure bruises, shark fin soup would make his skin tough and supple, rhino horn would cure cancer. As an adult, Chan has become China’s most famous actor – a martial arts all-action hero, who is unique in charming both Hollywood and Beijing."
[...]
“I was making a film in China, the government buy me a dinner,” he said. “I sit down; boom – they give me shark fin soup.
“I said put it away. I said can I have some other soup, I just don’t like shark fin soup. I start talking. Politely – it was ten years ago, and I was a foreigner from Hong Kong – but I told them.
“The second time they invited me, there was no shark fin soup. And they buy a dinner for me, for one person, but there were like 20 people around me. And if I stop, 20 people stop.”
http://www.globalanimal.org/2014/02/20/jackie-chan-combats-traditional-chinese-medicine/
Självklart. Det trodde jag att jag redan klargjort, eftersom jag pratade om demoner, gudar och evigt liv i startinlägget. ;)
När jag var i Honkong kunde man köpa gelé gjord på sköldpaddsskal som skulle vara nyttig eftersom solen skiner på sköldpaddans skal hela dagarna så där lagras qi. Enligt samma logik borde det vara nyttigt att äta mosade gatstenar.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/757713
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