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ligne
2007-02-18, 14:02
"Bone Boost is a carefully formulated combination of ingredients designed to strengthen and improve the function of bone, cartilage, and tendon"

Det här handlar alltså om San Nutritions "Bone Boost"

då jag har ont i mina knä, armbågar och underarmar så är jag lite desperat efter att hitta nåt som kanske kan hjälpa till att göra det bättre.

vad har ni för åsikter om den här produkten?

Svedberg
2007-03-02, 19:16
Bump....såg det här också å tänkte snaska lite för mina leder som tar lite stryk.

Men....dom rekommenderar 8 piller 2 gånger om dagen...och varje innehåller 1000mg(1g) Glucosamine och en del annat....så 16g glucosamine om dagen låter ju helt galet?

Farsan käkar nått från apoteket som heter atrox tror jag, det är 625mg och då ska man ta ca 2 om dagen...

Så varför ska man käka 16g per dag?(förutom att dom tjänar mer pengar då)

Whistler
2007-03-03, 04:08
Det glukosamin hjälper mot är återbildning av brosk. Så se först och främst till att få magnetröntgenbilder på att ni faktiskt har nedslitet brosk i lederna.

Dosering av glukosamin är omdebatterat. Vissa hävdar att det inte hjälper alls, andra hyllar det som ett mirakelmedel. King Grub eller någon annan som har koll på pubmed kan säkerligen bifoga en studie som kan vara till hjälp i tråden.

Har även för mig att glukosamin visade sig vara mångdubbelt så effektivt ihop med någon annan substans. Någon som kan fylla i? Kan vara värt att titta på innan man börjar häva i sig massa atrox (som är svindyrt) eller de billigare varianterna man kör på hästar.

Svedberg
2007-03-04, 11:53
Ja bone boost innehåller ju en hel del annat:



Designed To Support Healthy Function Of Bone, Cartilage & Tendon!
Bone Boost is a carefully formulated combination of ingredients designed to strengthen and improve the function of bone, cartilage, and tendon. Below we'll take a look at each of the components of Bone Boost and see how they function to improve the health of connective tissue. Its first ingredient is called:

Cissus quadrangularis

Cissus quadrangularis is an ancient medicinal plant native to the hotter parts of Ceylon and India. It was prescribed in the ancient Ayurvedic texts as a general tonic. Modern research has shed light on Cissus' ability to help support bone health by showing it acts as a glucocorticoid antagonist (1,2). Since anabolic/androgenic compounds are well known to act as antagonists to the glucocorticoid receptor as well as promote good bone health, it has been postulated that Cissus possesses anabolic and/or androgenic properties (1,3).

The typical recommended daily dosage of Cissus extract is between 500 and 1000 mg, depending on the concentration of the extract. For the powder of the dried plant, the Ayurvedic texts recommend a dosage of 3 to 6 grams. Safety studies in rats showed no toxic effects at dosages as high as 2000 mg/kg of body weight. So not only is Cissus efficacious, it is also quite safe, in either the dried powder form or the commercially available extract.

MSM

MSM, or methylsulfonylmethane is a chemical cousin (a metabolite, actually) of the familiar compound DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide), but lacks the unpleasant garlic like odor of typical DMSO. MSM has been used experimentally in association with an overactive immune response, including allergies. It is the latter that is of particular interest to us.

Glucosamine HCL

Glucosamine is a so-called aminomonosaccharide, consisting of a combination of glutamine and glucose. Glucosamine taken orally is concentrated in joint cartilage where the body uses it as a substrate for cartilage glucosaminoglycan synthesis. Reviews of the clinical trials and metaanalyses support the efficacy of glucosamine to support joint health. Besides serving as a building block for articular cartilage, glucosamine has been shown to suppress the formation of the compounds PGE(2) and nitric oxide produced by immune cells (This is not to be confused with the nitric oxide produced by working muscles and NO supplements. The latter two act as vasodilators and are beneficial for blood and nutrient delivery to exercising muscle.)

Chondroitin Sulfate

Chondroitin Sulfate (CS) is a polysaccharide consisting of linear repeating units of galactosamine and glucoronic acid. CS is found in human bone, cartilage, skin, cornea and arterial walls. Whereas glucosamine is primarily thought to promote the repair and formation of cartilage, CS is believed to promote water retention and elasticity in cartilage and inhibit enzymes that break down cartilage (4).

MCHC

Microcrystalline Hydroxyapatite Concentrate (MCHC) is a highly bioavailable source of calcium and phosphorus, the mineral building blocks of bone. MCHC is the actual matrix that makes up much of the bones' structure and provides over 45 whole bone proteins. Supplementing with MCHC provides calcium, phosphorus, and trace amounts of other minerals. As with Cissus, research has shown MCHC to be effective in supporting bone health. For this reason it may be of particular interest to those subject to stress associated with physical training, or simply the stress of everyday life. Although alternate forms of calcium are available for supplementation, such as calcium carbonate, MCHC based calcium supplementation has been shown to have better effects on bone density than other forms of calcium (5,6).

Vitamin D3

Vitamin D is well known as a hormone involved in mineral metabolism and bone growth. Its best-known effect is to facilitate intestinal absorption of calcium, although it also stimulates absorption of phosphate and magnesium ions (7,8). In the absence of vitamin D, dietary calcium is not absorbed efficiently. Vitamin D stimulates the expression of a number of proteins involved in transporting calcium from the interior (lumen) of the intestine, across the epithelial cells and into blood. The best studied of these calcium transporters is calbindin, an intracellular protein that shuttles calcium across the intestinal epithelial cell.

Numerous effects of vitamin D on bone have been demonstrated. As a transcriptional regulator of bone matrix proteins, it induces the expression of osteocalcin and suppresses synthesis of type I collagen. In cell cultures, vitamin D stimulates differentiation of osteoclasts, cells involved in bone metabolism. However, studies of humans and animals with vitamin D deficiency or mutations in the vitamin D receptor suggest that these effects are perhaps not of major physiologic importance, and that the crucial effect of vitamin D on bone is to provide the proper balance of calcium and phosphorus to support mineralization. As a component of Bone Boost, Vitamin D improves the already high bioavailability of MCHC.

Besides aiding mineral transport and possibly modulating the activity of bone and collagen producing cells, an interesting new function of Vitamin D is being investigated. We are all quite familiar with the importance of estrogen to bone strength. Research has shown that vitamin D may increase aromatase activity within bone itself, enhancing the local conversion of androgens to estrogens in both men and women. This process does not increase plasma levels of estrogen, but rather limits its production and concentration to bone. (9).

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Chopra SS, Patel MR, Gupta LP, Datta IC. Studies on Cissus quadrangularis in experimental fracture repair: effect on chemical parameters in blood Indian J Med Res. 1975 Jun;63(6):824-8.
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Svedberg
2007-03-04, 11:57
Jag kanske har lätt missuppfattat det, såg nu när jag sökte


Serving Size: 8 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 20

Container Size: 240 Capsules
Serving Size: 8 Capsules
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

Vitamin D3 480 IU 120%

MCHC 4000 mg
(Microcrystalline Hydroxyapatite) (25% Collagen, 10% Phosphorus, 65% MCHC)
Cissus Quadrangularis 1000 mg
Glucosamine HCI 1000 mg
MSM (Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane) 600 mg
Chondroitin Sulfate 500 mg

Other Ingredients:
Gelatin, Cellulose, Magnesium Stearate, FD&C colors, Titanium Dioxide.


Så man måste tydligen ta 8 piller för att komma upp i dom mängderna, inte 1g per piller..:smash: :smash:

EiseltUK
2007-03-04, 14:00
Är det någon som testat ren Cissus. 1 gram är inte speciellt mycket så jag antar att Bone Boost inte kan räknas som en Cissus-produkt.

Jag ska själv testa Cissus inom kort och se om det kan hjälpa min gamla knäskada sedan 25 år tillbaka. Om det funkar har vi ett mirakelmedel. :)

Dr Nick
2007-03-04, 14:14
Jag använder cissus just nu,mina vanligtvis onda axlar och onda knän har blivit normala,vanligtvis efter tyngre axel pass och ben pass så verker det lite i lederna men nu har det upphört helt.
Jag är övertygad.

überstarken
2007-03-04, 14:24
Smörj in de onda lederna med liniment innan träning om du inte redan prövat det. Köp hästliniment då du får mer för pengarna (det är samma innehåll).

ligne
2007-03-04, 16:02
kan någon skicka ett PM till mig och förklara var man kan köpa Cissus produkter?

har nämligen ganska svåra smärtor ibland. det gäller både armbågar och knä.

EiseltUK
2007-03-04, 16:16
kan någon skicka ett PM till mig och förklara var man kan köpa Cissus produkter?

har nämligen ganska svåra smärtor ibland. det gäller både armbågar och knä.

Vi kommer med en cissus-produkt. ;)

ligne
2007-03-04, 16:22
Vi kommer med en cissus-produkt. ;)

Härligt!

Jag får nog vara trogen Eiselt snart, ni gör ju bara toppenprodukter :D

EiseltUK
2007-03-04, 16:34
Härligt!

Jag får nog vara trogen Eiselt snart, ni gör ju bara toppenprodukter :D

... och alltid steget före Fairing. http://*******.se/forum/images/smiles/tease.gif