Visa fullständig version : Val av kreatin (helst inte vatten"plumsig")
Då ja inte är intresserad av o "se" biffig utan utan bara utnyttja kreatinets effekt på att kräma ut det där sista ur varje övning, vad för kreatin rekommenderar ni?
Vilket är bäst? Monohydrat eller nåt annat? O då menar jag effekten på "styrkeökning". Om det är så att jag trots allt måste välja ett monohydratkreatin för att få bästa effekt o då blir vattenfylld spelar ingen roll bara jag får det bästa :D
PS har testat både kreatinmonohydrat och kreatincitrat förut DS
Om du inte vill lägga på dig för mycke vatten men vill ha kreatinets egenskaper, så bör du kanske testa ...
-- Kreapyr (kreatin puruvat) fettförbrännande
-- Kreatin Citrat (tas upp snabbare av kroppen än Monohydrat)
-- KCG (kreatincitrat b-alnin L-glutemin, prestationsöjande)
Ja skulle satsa på KCG, då orkar du lite mer och de tas innan träning..
Marcus
Fangface
2004-08-10, 23:08
Håller med pdaddy.
Och eftersom du redan provat kreatinpyruvat och kreatincitrat, tycker jag du ska tasta KCG.
Tycker själv att jag gjorde väldigt bra ökningar när jag tog det ! :thumbup:
Då ja inte är intresserad av o "se" biffig utan utan bara utnyttja kreatinets effekt på att kräma ut det där sista ur varje övning, vad för kreatin rekommenderar ni?
Vilket är bäst? Monohydrat eller nåt annat? O då menar jag effekten på "styrkeökning". Om det är så att jag trots allt måste välja ett monohydratkreatin för att få bästa effekt o då blir vattenfylld spelar ingen roll bara jag får det bästa :D
PS har testat både kreatinmonohydrat och kreatincitrat förut DS
Låter lite som om att man skulle se "biffig" ut bara av att äta kreatin...Prestationshöjningen i sig bidrar mer än man tror till "biffigheten".
3-4 extra reps i varje set under ett par veckor sätter bra fart på det hela...
Funkade monohydratet bra? Om så var fallet så skulle jag fortsätta med det om det är styrkeökningar det handlar om.
ok men då kör jag tamejfan på det :-) helst ska man ha 100% kreatinmonohydrat right? finns det verkligen i ALLA märken som finns?
MVH
machogymman
2004-08-11, 22:46
Kre-Alkalyn®
NEW Patent Technology
Awarded U.S. Patent #6,399,661
BUFFERED CREATINE FACTS
Kre-Alkalyn® Creatine - Awarded U.S. Patent #6,399,661
Armed with the creatine facts above, Bioceutical Research went to work to address the toxic conversion of creatine monohydrate. Eighteen months later, the finishing touches were made and a U.S. Patent application filed for the successful and novel method of keeping creatine monohydrate stable and completely free of toxic conversion.
With this new patent process the main problem with all existing creatine supplements, the inability to deliver concentrated amounts of creatine without toxic conversion, was solved.
Why buffered is better, in more ways than one
Since Kre-Alkalyn Buffered Creatine is free of unwanted creatinine conversion following liquid activation, it puts an end to the days of having to saturate your body with huge ten to twenty gram amounts of creatine monohydrate to get the desired strength, endurance and muscle building effects. More concisely, Kre-Alkalyn allows you to safely consume creatine, to full and most potent effect, with only a fraction of previous dosages.
Kre-Alkalyn creatine facts - Q&A transcript
"If I understand this correctly, the new data says that most of the creatine monohydrate I
have been taking converts to the toxin creatinine within minutes when added to any liquid, be it juice or water, etc. So I am in effect taking a lot of creatinine (a toxin) and very
little actual creatine monohydrate. How is this so? I have been using creatine for years and got a good effect from it. Please explain."
The best way to explain it is, when you supplement with 5 grams of ordinary creatine monohydrate you probably get the benefit of 2-400mg of actual creatine.
Typically, the human body itself will produce around 2 grams of creatine daily. So, the additional 2-400 mgs on top of what your body naturally produces gives you a 10-20% increase in the pool of available creatine. The problem is with the 4.6 grams of toxic creatinine you'd also be ingesting. You just have to start looking at it differently. Most of the creatine is lost when added to liquid, and even more is converted to creatinine when passing through the acidic stomach. In contrast, Kre-Alkalyn gives you a full, stable uptake of pure creatine with zero toxic conversion. All the good, none of the bad.
"How does this new form of creatine, Kre-Alkalyn, never convert to creatinine?"
Through extensive trials (test results), the research team found that the speed of the toxic conversion was directly proportional to the pH of the liquid it was mixed with. However, merely adding creatine monohydrate to a strong alkaline drink did not solve the problem because of the highly acidic stomach environment following ingestion.
The breakthrough came when they discovered that if the creatine could somehow be buffered during the manufacturing process to pH12 or greater then it would remain completely stable when mixed with water and in the stomach following ingestion. The patent process that results in Kre-Alkalyn gives you the only form of creatine that passes intact and at full dosage levels into the blood stream.
"What is the creatine buffered with?"
The buffering takes place in the synthesis process of Kre-Alkalyn creatine itself, allowing retention of a safe, high pH within the structure of the actual compound.
"Won't a strong alkaline substance burn human tissue in the same way as a strong acid?"
Kre-Alkalyn is food grade technology. A good analogy is how a 3.0 pH acid will burn the skin, yet you can drink all the orange soda (also pH3) you want because it is citric acid.
"Once it hits the stomach will it no longer be stable because of the strong acids present?"
Kre-Alkalyn creatine remains 100% stable and exhibits complete uptake because the patented buffering action is specifically designed to work within the stomach, raising pH long enough for full absorption.
"So, what does this all mean?"
Simply a more effective, safer and better value form of creatine. You will only need to use a fraction of what was previously needed. You'll get better results with none of the negative side effects or toxic conversion seen with conventional creatine monohydrate.
"How is your Kre-Alkalyn a better value than plain creatine monohydrate powder?"
The advantages obviously go beyond just price. Plus, MASS brand Kre-Alkalyn comes in easy-to-use capsules. But, to illustrate the value, consider that if you were previously using 15 grams a day of creatine monohydrate that you'll only need a mere 2 capsules daily of patented Kre-Alkalyn. Yes, you did read correctly, 2 capsules TOTAL per day. Even for the most heavily muscled athletes, a 100 count bottle of Kre-Alkalyn caps lasts a minimum of 4 weeks, and for the vast majority of users a full 7 weeks or more.
»Click here to order your personal supply of Kre-Alkalyn - delivered FAST to your door
»More creatine facts - Kre-Alkalyn Creatine information
from the masterminds behind Kre-Alkalyn Creatine: Nitro AKG
"Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about
achieving it and staying with that plan" -Tom Landry
Kre-Alkalyn®
NEW Patent Technology
Awarded U.S. Patent #6,399,661
BUFFERED CREATINE FACTS
Kre-Alkalyn® Creatine - Awarded U.S. Patent #6,399,661
Armed with the creatine facts above, Bioceutical Research went to work to address the toxic conversion of creatine monohydrate. Eighteen months later, the finishing touches were made and a U.S. Patent application filed for the successful and novel method of keeping creatine monohydrate stable and completely free of toxic conversion.
With this new patent process the main problem with all existing creatine supplements, the inability to deliver concentrated amounts of creatine without toxic conversion, was solved.
Why buffered is better, in more ways than one
Since Kre-Alkalyn Buffered Creatine is free of unwanted creatinine conversion following liquid activation, it puts an end to the days of having to saturate your body with huge ten to twenty gram amounts of creatine monohydrate to get the desired strength, endurance and muscle building effects. More concisely, Kre-Alkalyn allows you to safely consume creatine, to full and most potent effect, with only a fraction of previous dosages.
Kre-Alkalyn creatine facts - Q&A transcript
"If I understand this correctly, the new data says that most of the creatine monohydrate I
have been taking converts to the toxin creatinine within minutes when added to any liquid, be it juice or water, etc. So I am in effect taking a lot of creatinine (a toxin) and very
little actual creatine monohydrate. How is this so? I have been using creatine for years and got a good effect from it. Please explain."
The best way to explain it is, when you supplement with 5 grams of ordinary creatine monohydrate you probably get the benefit of 2-400mg of actual creatine.
Typically, the human body itself will produce around 2 grams of creatine daily. So, the additional 2-400 mgs on top of what your body naturally produces gives you a 10-20% increase in the pool of available creatine. The problem is with the 4.6 grams of toxic creatinine you'd also be ingesting. You just have to start looking at it differently. Most of the creatine is lost when added to liquid, and even more is converted to creatinine when passing through the acidic stomach. In contrast, Kre-Alkalyn gives you a full, stable uptake of pure creatine with zero toxic conversion. All the good, none of the bad.
"How does this new form of creatine, Kre-Alkalyn, never convert to creatinine?"
Through extensive trials (test results), the research team found that the speed of the toxic conversion was directly proportional to the pH of the liquid it was mixed with. However, merely adding creatine monohydrate to a strong alkaline drink did not solve the problem because of the highly acidic stomach environment following ingestion.
The breakthrough came when they discovered that if the creatine could somehow be buffered during the manufacturing process to pH12 or greater then it would remain completely stable when mixed with water and in the stomach following ingestion. The patent process that results in Kre-Alkalyn gives you the only form of creatine that passes intact and at full dosage levels into the blood stream.
"What is the creatine buffered with?"
The buffering takes place in the synthesis process of Kre-Alkalyn creatine itself, allowing retention of a safe, high pH within the structure of the actual compound.
"Won't a strong alkaline substance burn human tissue in the same way as a strong acid?"
Kre-Alkalyn is food grade technology. A good analogy is how a 3.0 pH acid will burn the skin, yet you can drink all the orange soda (also pH3) you want because it is citric acid.
"Once it hits the stomach will it no longer be stable because of the strong acids present?"
Kre-Alkalyn creatine remains 100% stable and exhibits complete uptake because the patented buffering action is specifically designed to work within the stomach, raising pH long enough for full absorption.
"So, what does this all mean?"
Simply a more effective, safer and better value form of creatine. You will only need to use a fraction of what was previously needed. You'll get better results with none of the negative side effects or toxic conversion seen with conventional creatine monohydrate.
"How is your Kre-Alkalyn a better value than plain creatine monohydrate powder?"
The advantages obviously go beyond just price. Plus, MASS brand Kre-Alkalyn comes in easy-to-use capsules. But, to illustrate the value, consider that if you were previously using 15 grams a day of creatine monohydrate that you'll only need a mere 2 capsules daily of patented Kre-Alkalyn. Yes, you did read correctly, 2 capsules TOTAL per day. Even for the most heavily muscled athletes, a 100 count bottle of Kre-Alkalyn caps lasts a minimum of 4 weeks, and for the vast majority of users a full 7 weeks or more.
»Click here to order your personal supply of Kre-Alkalyn - delivered FAST to your door
»More creatine facts - Kre-Alkalyn Creatine information
from the masterminds behind Kre-Alkalyn Creatine: Nitro AKG
"Setting a goal is not the main thing. It is deciding how you will go about
achieving it and staying with that plan" -Tom Landry
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