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DANNE1988
2011-07-05, 04:15
Som vi vet innehåller alla sorts "All-in-One" kosttillskott en massa ämnen, vitaminer och mineraler, men vad betyder allt det där? Vad är det som gör dom så viktiga för kroppen?

Så, ni som vet kan väl svara på min lista på vad varje individuellt ämne har för nytta på kroppen. Tackar. :-)

Fiskolja Denna kan jag redan.
Omega3 Denna kan jag redan.
EPA
DHA
Vitamin A
Vitamin D
Vitamin E
Vitamin C Denna kan jag redan.
Tiamin
Riboflavin
Niacin
Vitamin B6
Folat
Vitamin B12
Biotin
Pantotensyra
Järn
Koppar
Jod
Zink
Magnesium Denna kan jag redan.
Mangan En sorts metall?
Krom
Selen

Haha, insåg precis att jag inte kan något i princip om ämnen. ;D

Pepz
2011-07-05, 04:34
http://www.google.se

DANNE1988
2011-07-05, 15:18
ROLIG DU ÄR. Skrattar som fan.

vicarious
2011-07-05, 15:18
ROLIG DU ÄR. Skrattar som fan.

Varför ska någon göra jobbet åt dig? Låna en bok om grundläggande näringslära och ta reda på det själv.

Eller använd internet som Pepz tipsade om.

Crocker
2011-07-05, 15:57
Lite väl hippie-inspirerad sida, men den är helt OK för ditt ämne. (http://www.halsosidorna.se/Vitaminer.htm)

Ponitus
2011-07-05, 17:12
Du får vitamin D av att vara ute i solen vet jag iaf. Så det behöver du inget tillskott för.

Pepz
2011-07-05, 17:37
ROLIG DU ÄR. Skrattar som fan.

du är lat alltså?
du vill alltså helt ärligt att någon ska förklara över 20substanser för dig vad de gör i kroppen? inser du att det i princip är en bok i ren information?

och du har uppenbarligen inte ens koll på fiskolja som du skriver eftersom du inte förstår de efterföljande substanserna

wikipedia har väldigt bra sammanfattningar om du tar dig tid att läsa lite

Sheogorath
2011-07-05, 18:41
Du får vitamin D av att vara ute i solen vet jag iaf. Så det behöver du inget tillskott för.

Oh fan. Vitamin D är den enda vitamin jag tar som tillskott. Bäst att sluta nu då. Verkar ju helt onödigt.

DANNE1988
2011-07-05, 18:52
Varför ska någon göra jobbet åt dig? Låna en bok om grundläggande näringslära och ta reda på det själv.

Eller använd internet som Pepz tipsade om.

Dock så hittar jag inte vad alla gör för kroppen, jag läser vad dom har för nytta men inte vad som händer med kroppen om man skippar tex Vitamin A. Det var lite det jag ville diskutera.

DANNE1988
2011-07-05, 19:05
du är lat alltså?
du vill alltså helt ärligt att någon ska förklara över 20substanser för dig vad de gör i kroppen? inser du att det i princip är en bok i ren information?

och du har uppenbarligen inte ens koll på fiskolja som du skriver eftersom du inte förstår de efterföljande substanserna

wikipedia har väldigt bra sammanfattningar om du tar dig tid att läsa lite

Lat? Nej.
Om jag vill ha alla substanser förklarade? Ja, lite förenklat vad dom gör för kroppen.. tex att "Magnesium förhindrar musklerna att krampa, förbättrar nervsystemet." osv

Jag vet precis hur mycket det är, jag vet bara grunderna i allt, att fiskolja är fiskolja och att det är bra för syreupptagningen, fetter osv, och att DHA och EHA är detsamma i princip som fiskolja tänkte jag inte på, jag är nybörjare när det kommer till det här så det är väl inte konstigt?

Och varför jag svarade som jag gjorde på ditt inlägg var helt enkelt för att ditt inlägg var minst lika drygt. "www.google.se" ...

Vill du hjälpa till så skriv gärna något väsentligt istället för att vara sån besserwisser.

DANNE1988
2011-07-05, 19:09
Lite väl hippie-inspirerad sida, men den är helt OK för ditt ämne. (http://www.halsosidorna.se/Vitaminer.htm)

Tackar , mycket bra sida. :)

Ponitus
2011-07-05, 19:32
Oh fan. Vitamin D är den enda vitamin jag tar som tillskott. Bäst att sluta nu då. Verkar ju helt onödigt.

Ber om ursäkt att jag skrev så då. Suck.

Sheogorath
2011-07-05, 19:37
Ber om ursäkt att jag skrev så då. Suck.

Tyckte bara det var lite kul att du lyckades pricka in PRECIS den jag tycker är värt att ta separat för egen del ;) Visst får man Vitamin D av solljus men på våra breddgrader är det en väldigt begränsad del av året när solen står på ett sätt som gör att man producerar ordentligt i huden och dessutom är vi inne mycket mer än söderlevande folk och när vi väl är ute är det ofta kallt och vi har massa kläder på oss som täcker.

Ponitus
2011-07-05, 19:44
Tyckte bara det var lite kul att du lyckades pricka in PRECIS den jag tycker är värt att ta separat för egen del ;) Visst får man Vitamin D av solljus men på våra breddgrader är det en väldigt begränsad del av året när solen står på ett sätt som gör att man producerar ordentligt i huden och dessutom är vi inne mycket mer än söderlevande folk och när vi väl är ute är det ofta kallt och vi har massa kläder på oss som täcker.

Haha ;)
Jomen det var onödigt av mig att skriva att man inte behövde ta det. Du har rätt i det du säger. Vi är mycket inne och har alltid kläder på oss, helt klart.

Pepz
2011-07-05, 19:53
kan ju ta vitamin C då som du redan visste vad den gjorde

Vitamin C or L-ascorbic acid or L-ascorbate is an essential nutrient for humans and certain other animal species. In living organisms ascorbate acts as an antioxidant by protecting the body against oxidative stress.[1] It is also a cofactor in at least eight enzymatic reactions including several collagen synthesis reactions that cause the most severe symptoms of scurvy when they are dysfunctional.[2] In animals these reactions are especially important in wound-healing and in preventing bleeding from capillaries.

Ascorbate (an ion of ascorbic acid) is required for a range of essential metabolic reactions in all animals and plants. It is made internally by almost all organisms although notable mammalian group exceptions are most or all of the order chiroptera (bats), guinea pigs, capybaras, and one of the two major primate suborders, the Anthropoidea (Haplorrhini) (tarsiers, monkeys and apes, including human beings). Ascorbic acid is also not synthesized by some species of birds and fish. All species that do not synthesize ascorbate require it in the diet. Deficiency in this vitamin causes the disease scurvy in humans.[3][4][5] It is also widely used as a food additive.

Scurvy has been known since ancient times. People in many parts of the world assumed it was caused by a lack of fresh plant foods. The British Navy started giving sailors lime juice to prevent scurvy in 1795.[6] Ascorbic acid was finally isolated in 1932 and commercially "synthesized" (this included a fermentation step in bacteria) in 1934. The uses and recommended daily intake of vitamin C are matters of ongoing debate, with RDI ranging from 45 to 95 mg/day.

[edit] Biological significance
Further information: ascorbic acid

Vitamin C is purely the L-enantiomer of ascorbate; the opposite D-enantiomer has no physiological significance. Both forms are mirror images of the same molecular structure. When L-ascorbate, which is a strong reducing agent, carries out its reducing function, it is converted to its oxidized form, L-dehydroascorbate.[2] L-dehydroascorbate can then be reduced back to the active L-ascorbate form in the body by enzymes and glutathione.[7] During this process semidehydroascorbic acid radical is formed. Ascorbate free radical reacts poorly with oxygen, and thus, will not create a superoxide. Instead two semidehydroascorbate radicals will react and form one ascorbate and one dehydroascorbate. With the help of glutathione, dehydroxyascorbate is converted back to ascorbate.[8] The presence of glutathione is crucial since it spares ascorbate and improves antioxidant capacity of blood.[9] Without it dehydroxyascorbate could not convert back to ascorbate.

L-Ascorbate is a weak sugar acid structurally related to glucose that naturally occurs attached either to a hydrogen ion, forming ascorbic acid, or to a metal ion, forming a mineral ascorbate.
[edit] Biosynthesis in different species
Model of a vitamin C molecule. Black is carbon, red is oxygen, and white is hydrogen

The vast majority of animals and plants are able to synthesize their own vitamin C, through a sequence of four enzyme-driven steps, which convert glucose to vitamin C.[2] The glucose needed to produce ascorbate in the liver (in mammals and perching birds) is extracted from glycogen; ascorbate synthesis is a glycogenolysis-dependent process.[10] In reptiles and birds the biosynthesis is carried out in the kidneys.

Among the animals that have lost the ability to synthesise vitamin C are simians and tarsiers, which together make up one of two major primate suborders, the anthropoidea, also called haplorrhini. This group includes humans. The other more primitive primates (strepsirrhini) have the ability to make vitamin C. Synthesis does not occur in a number of species (perhaps all species) in the small rodent family caviidae that includes guinea pigs and capybaras, but occurs in other rodents (rats and mice do not need vitamin C in their diet, for example). A number of species of passerine birds also do not synthesise, but not all of them, and those that don't are not clearly related; there is a theory that the ability was lost separately a number of times in birds.[11] All tested families of bats, including major insect and fruit-eating bat families, cannot synthesise vitamin C. A trace of GLO was detected in only 1 of 34 bat species tested, across the range of 6 families of bats tested.[12]

These animals all lack the L-gulonolactone oxidase (GULO) enzyme, which is required in the last step of vitamin C synthesis, because they have a differing non-synthesising gene for the enzyme (Pseudogene ΨGULO).[13] A similar non-functional gene however, is present in the genome of the guinea pigs and in primates, including humans.[14][15] Some of these species (including humans) are able to make do with the lower levels available from their diets by recycling oxidised vitamin C.[16]

Most simians consume the vitamin in amounts 10 to 20 times higher than that recommended by governments for humans.[17] This discrepancy constitutes much of the basis of the controversy on current recommended dietary allowances. It is countered by arguments that humans are very good at conserving dietary vitamin C, and are able to maintain blood levels of vitamin C comparable with other simians, on a far smaller dietary intake.

An adult goat, a typical example of a vitamin C-producing animal, will manufacture more than 13,000 mg of vitamin C per day in normal health and the biosynthesis will increase "manyfold under stress".[18] Trauma or injury has also been demonstrated to use up large quantities of vitamin C in humans.[19] Some microorganisms such as the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae have been shown to be able to synthesize vitamin C from simple sugars.[20][21]
[edit] Vitamin C in evolution

Venturi and Venturi[22][23] suggested that the antioxidant action of ascorbic acid developed first in the plant kingdom when, about 500 million years ago (mya), plants began to adapt to antioxidant-mineral-deficient fresh-waters of estuaries. Some biologists suggested that many vertebrates had developed their metabolic adaptive strategies in estuary environment.[24] In this theory, some 400–300 mya, when living plants and animals first began the move from the sea to rivers and land, environmental iodine deficiency was a challenge to the evolution of terrestrial life.[25] In plants, animals and fishes, the terrestrial diet became deficient in many essential antioxidant marine micronutrients, including iodine, selenium, zinc, copper, manganese, iron, etc. Freshwater algae and terrestrial plants, in replacement of marine antioxidants, slowly optimized the production of other endogenous antioxidants such as ascorbic acid, polyphenols, carotenoids, tocopherols etc., some of which became essential “vitamins” in the diet of terrestrial animals (vitamins C, A, E, etc.).

Ascorbic acid or vitamin C is a common enzymatic cofactor in mammals used in the synthesis of collagen. Ascorbate is a powerful reducing agent capable of rapidly scavenging a number of reactive oxygen species (ROS). Freshwater teleost fishes also require dietary vitamin C in their diet or they will get scurvy. The most widely recognized symptoms of vitamin C deficiency in fishes are scoliosis, lordosis and dark skin coloration. Freshwater salmonids also show impaired collagen formation, internal/fin haemorrhage, spinal curvature and increased mortality. If these fishes are housed in seawater with algae and phytoplankton, then vitamin supplementation seems to be less important, it is presumed because of the availability of other, more ancient, antioxidants in natural marine environment.[26]

Some scientists have suggested that loss of the vitamin C biosynthesis pathway may have played a role in the theory of rapid evolutionary changes, leading to hominids and the emergence of human beings.[27][28][29] However, another theory based on the theory of evolution is that the loss of ability to make vitamin C in simians may have occurred much farther back in evolutionary history than the emergence of humans or even apes, since it evidently occurred rather soon after the appearance of the first primates, yet sometime after the split of early primates into its two major suborders haplorrhini (which cannot make vitamin C) and its sister suborder of non-tarsier prosimians, the strepsirrhini ("wet-nosed" primates), which retained the ability to make vitamin C.[30] According to molecular clock dating, these two suborder primate branches parted ways about 63 to 60 Mya[31] Approximately three to five million years later (58 Mya), only a short time afterward from an evolutionary perspective, the infraorder Tarsiiformes, whose only remaining family is that of the tarsier (Tarsiidae), branched off from the other haplorrhines.[32][33] Since tarsiers also cannot make vitamin C, this implies the mutation had already occurred, and thus must have occurred between these two marker points (63 to 58 Mya).

It has been noted that the loss of the ability to synthesize ascorbate strikingly parallels the inability to break down uric acid, also a characteristic of primates. Uric acid and ascorbate are both strong reducing agents. This has led to the suggestion that, in higher primates, uric acid has taken over some of the functions of ascorbate.[34]
[edit] Absorption, transport, and disposal

Ascorbic acid is absorbed in the body by both active transport and simple diffusion. Sodium-Dependent Active Transport—Sodium-Ascorbate Co-Transporters (SVCTs) and Hexose transporters (GLUTs)—are the two transporters required for absorption. SVCT1 and SVCT2 import the reduced form of ascorbate across plasma membrane.[35] GLUT1 and GLUT3 are the two glucose transporters, and transfer only dehydroascorbic acid form of Vitamin C.[36] Although dehydroascorbic acid is absorbed in higher rate than ascorbate, the amount of dehydroascorbic acid found in plasma and tissues under normal conditions is low, as cells rapidly reduce dehydroascorbic acid to ascorbate.[37][38] Thus, SVCTs appear to be the predominant system for vitamin C transport in the body.

SVCT2 is involved in vitamin C transport in almost every tissue,[35] the notable exception being red blood cells, which lose SVCT proteins during maturation.[39] "SVCT2 knockout" animals genetically engineered to lack this functional gene, die shortly after birth,[40] suggesting that SVCT2-mediated vitamin C transport is necessary for life.

With regular intake the absorption rate varies between 70 to 95%. However, the degree of absorption decreases as intake increases. At high intake (12g), fractional human absorption of ascorbic acid may be as low as 16%; at low intake (<20 mg) the absorption rate can reach up to 98%.[41] Ascorbate concentrations over renal re-absorption threshold pass freely into the urine and are excreted. At high dietary doses (corresponding to several hundred mg/day in humans) ascorbate is accumulated in the body until the plasma levels reach the renal resorption threshold, which is about 1.5 mg/dL in men and 1.3 mg/dL in women. Concentrations in the plasma larger than this value (thought to represent body saturation) are rapidly excreted in the urine with a half-life of about 30 minutes. Concentrations less than this threshold amount are actively retained by the kidneys, and the excretion half-life for the remainder of the vitamin C store in the body thus increases greatly, with the half-life lengthening as the body stores are depleted. This half-life rises until it is as long as 83 days by the onset of the first symptoms of scurvy.[42]

Although the body's maximal store of vitamin C is largely determined by the renal threshold for blood, there are many tissues that maintain vitamin C concentrations far higher than in blood. Biological tissues that accumulate over 100 times the level in blood plasma of vitamin C are the adrenal glands, pituitary, thymus, corpus luteum, and retina.[43] Those with 10 to 50 times the concentration present in blood plasma include the brain, spleen, lung, testicle, lymph nodes, liver, thyroid, small intestinal mucosa, leukocytes, pancreas, kidney and salivary glands.

Ascorbic acid can be oxidized (broken down) in the human body by the enzyme L-ascorbate oxidase. Ascorbate that is not directly excreted in the urine as a result of body saturation or destroyed in other body metabolism is oxidized by this enzyme and removed.
[edit] Deficiency
Main article: Scurvy

Scurvy is an avitaminosis resulting from lack of vitamin C, since without this vitamin, the synthesised collagen is too unstable to perform its function. Scurvy leads to the formation of brown spots on the skin, spongy gums, and bleeding from all mucous membranes. The spots are most abundant on the thighs and legs, and a person with the ailment looks pale, feels depressed, and is partially immobilized. In advanced scurvy there are open, suppurating wounds and loss of teeth and, eventually, death. The human body can store only a certain amount of vitamin C,[44] and so the body stores are depleted if fresh supplies are not consumed. The time frame for onset of symptoms of scurvy in unstressed adults switched to a completely vitamin C free diet, however, may range from one month to more than six months, depending on previous loading of vitamin C (see below).

It has been shown that smokers who have diets poor in vitamin C are at a higher risk of lung-borne diseases than those smokers who have higher concentrations of vitamin C in the blood.[45]

Nobel prize winner Linus Pauling and G. C. Willis have asserted that chronic long term low blood levels of vitamin C ("chronic scurvy") is a cause of atherosclerosis.[46]

Western societies generally consume far more than sufficient Vitamin C to prevent scurvy. In 2004, a Canadian Community health survey reported that Canadians of 19 years and above have intakes of vitamin C from food of 133 mg/d for males and 120 mg/d for females;[47] these are higher than the RDA recommendations.

Notable human dietary studies of experimentally-induced scurvy have been conducted on conscientious objectors during WW II in Britain, and on Iowa state prisoner "volunteers" in the late 1960s. These studies both found that all obvious symptoms of scurvy previously induced by an experimental scorbutic diet with extremely low vitamin C content could be completely reversed by additional vitamin C supplementation of only 10 mg a day. In these experiments, there was no clinical difference noted between men given 70 mg vitamin C per day (which produced blood level of vitamin C of about 0.55 mg/dl, about 1/3 of tissue saturation levels), and those given 10 mg per day. Men in the prison study developed the first signs of scurvy about 4 weeks after starting the vitamin C free diet, whereas in the British study, six to eight months were required, possibly due to the pre-loading of this group with a 70 mg/day supplement for six weeks before the scorbutic diet was fed.[48]

Men in both studies on a diet devoid, or nearly devoid, of vitamin C had blood levels of vitamin C too low to be accurately measured when they developed signs of scurvy, and in the Iowa study, at this time were estimated (by labeled vitamin C dilution) to have a body pool of less than 300 mg, with daily turnover of only 2.5 mg/day, implying a instantaneous half-life of 83 days by this time (elimination constant of 4 months).[49]

Moderately higher blood levels of vitamin C measured in healthy persons have been found to be prospectively correlated with decreased risk of cardiovascular disease and ischaemic heart disease, and an increase life expectancy. The same study found an inverse relationship between blood vitamin C levels and cancer risk in men, but not in women. An increase in blood level of 20 micromol/L of vitamin C (about 0.35 mg/dL, and representing a theoretical additional 50 grams of fruit and vegetables per day) was found epidemiologically to reduce the all-cause risk of mortality, four years after measuring it, by about 20%.[50] However, because this was not an intervention study, causation could not be proven, and vitamin C blood levels acting as a proxy marker for other differences between the groups could not be ruled out. However, the four-year long and prospective nature of the study did rule out proxy effect from any vitamin C lowering effects of immediately terminal illness, or near-end-of-life poor health.

Studies with much higher doses of vitamin C, usually between 200 and 6000 mg/day, for the treatment of infections and wounds have shown inconsistent results.[51] Combinations of antioxidants seem to improve wound healing.[52]
[edit]


In humans, vitamin C is essential to a healthy diet as well as being a highly effective antioxidant, acting to lessen oxidative stress; a substrate for ascorbate peroxidase in plants (APX is plant specific enzyme);[5] and an enzyme cofactor for the biosynthesis of many important biochemicals. Vitamin C acts as an electron donor for important enzymes:[74]
[edit] Collagen, carnitine, and tyrosine synthesis, and microsomal metabolism

Ascorbic acid performs numerous physiological functions in the human body. These functions include the synthesis of collagen, carnitine, and neurotransmitters; the synthesis and catabolism of tyrosine; and the metabolism of microsome.[9] During biosynthesis ascorbate acts as a reducing agent, donating electrons and preventing oxidation to keep iron and copper atoms in their reduced states.

Vitamin C acts as an electron donor for eight different enzymes:[74]

* Three enzymes participate in collagen hydroxylation.[75][76][77] These reactions add hydroxyl groups to the amino acids proline or lysine in the collagen molecule via prolyl hydroxylase and lysyl hydroxylase, both requiring vitamin C as a cofactor. Hydroxylation allows the collagen molecule to assume its triple helix structure, and thus vitamin C is essential to the development and maintenance of scar tissue, blood vessels, and cartilage.[44]

* Two enzymes are necessary for synthesis of carnitine.[78][79] Carnitine is essential for the transport of fatty acids into mitochondria for ATP generation.

* The remaining three enzymes have the following functions in common, but have other functions as well:
o dopamine beta hydroxylase participates in the biosynthesis of norepinephrine from dopamine.[80][81]
o another enzyme adds amide groups to peptide hormones, greatly increasing their stability.[82][83]
o one modulates tyrosine metabolism.[84][85]

[edit] Antioxidant

Ascorbic acid is well known for its antioxidant activity, acting as a reducing agent to reverse oxidation in liquids. When there are more free radicals (reactive oxygen species, ROS) in the human body than antioxidants, the condition is called oxidative stress,[86] and has an impact on cardiovascular disease, hypertension, chronic inflammatory diseases, diabetes[87][88][89][90] as well as on critically ill patients and individuals with severe burns.[86] Individuals experiencing oxidative stress have ascorbate blood levels lower than 45 µmol/L, compared to healthy individual who range between 61.4-80 µmol/L.[91]

It is not yet certain whether vitamin C and antioxidants in general prevent oxidative stress-related diseases and promote health. Clinical studies regarding the effects of vitamin C supplementation on lipoproteins and cholesterol have found that vitamin C supplementation does not improve disease markers in the blood.[92][93] Vitamin C may contribute to decreased risk of cardiovascular disease and strokes through a small reduction in systolic blood pressure,[94] and was also found to both increase ascorbic acid levels and reduce levels of resistin serum,[95] another likely determinant of oxidative stress and cardiovascular risk. However, so far there is no consensus that vitamin C intake has an impact on cardiovascular risks in general, and an array of studies found negative results.[96] Meta-analysis of a large number of studies on antioxidants, including vitamin C supplementation, found no relationship between vitamin C and mortality. Thus vitamin C does not appear to help people live longer.[97]
[edit] Pro-oxidant

Ascorbic acid behaves not only as an antioxidant but also as a pro-oxidant.[86] Ascorbic acid has been shown to reduce transition metals, such as cupric ions (Cu2+), to cuprous (Cu1+), and ferric ions (Fe3+) to ferrous (Fe2+) during conversion from ascorbate to dehydroascorbate in vitro.[98] This reaction can generate superoxide and other ROS. However, in the body, free transition elements are unlikely to be present while iron and copper are bound to diverse proteins[86] and the intravenous use of vitamin C does not appear to increase pro-oxidant activity.[99] Thus, ascorbate as a pro-oxidant is unlikely to convert metals to create ROS in vivo. However, vitamin C supplementation has been associated with increased DNA damage in the lymphocytes of healthy volunteers.[100]
[edit] Immune system

Vitamin C is found in high concentrations in immune cells, and is consumed quickly during infections. It is not certain how vitamin C interacts with the immune system, it has been hypothesized to modulate the activities of phagocytes, the production of cytokines and lymphocytees, and the number of cell adhesion molecules in monocytes.[101]
[edit] Antihistamine

Vitamin C is a natural antihistamine. It both prevents histamine release and increases the detoxification of histamine. A 1992 study found that taking 2 grams vitamin C daily lowered blood histamine levels 38 percent in healthy adults in just one week.[102] It has also been noted that low concentrations of serum vitamin C has been correlated with increased serum histamine levels.[citation needed]
[edit] Physiologic function in plants

Ascorbic acid is associated with chloroplasts and apparently plays a role in ameliorating the oxidative stress of photosynthesis. In addition, it has a number of other roles in cell division and protein modification. Plants appear to be able to make ascorbate by at least one other biochemical route that is different from the major route in animals, although precise details remain unknown.[103]
[edit] Daily requirements

The North American Dietary Reference Intake recommends 90 milligrams per day and no more than 2 grams (2,000 milligrams) per day.[104] Other related species sharing the same inability to produce vitamin C and requiring exogenous vitamin C consume 20 to 80 times this reference intake.[105] There is continuing debate within the scientific community over the best dose schedule (the amount and frequency of intake) of vitamin C for maintaining optimal health in humans.[106] It is generally agreed that a balanced diet without supplementation contains enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy in an average healthy adult, while those who are pregnant, smoke tobacco, or are under stress require slightly more.[104]

High doses (thousands of milligrams) may result in diarrhea in healthy adults, as a result of the osmotic water-retaining effect of the unabsorbed portion in the gastrointestinal tract (similar to cathartic osmotic laxatives). Proponents of orthomolecular medicine[107] claim the onset of diarrhea to be an indication of where the body’s true vitamin C requirement lies, though this has not been clinically verified.
United States vitamin C recommendations[104]
Recommended Dietary Allowance (adult male) 90 mg per day
Recommended Dietary Allowance (adult female) 75 mg per day
Tolerable Upper Intake Level (adult male) 2,000 mg per day
Tolerable Upper Intake Level (adult female) 2,000 mg per day
[edit] Government recommended intakes

Recommendations for vitamin C intake have been set by various national agencies:

* 40 milligrams per day: the United Kingdom's Food Standards Agency[3]
* 45 milligrams per day: the World Health Organization[108]
* 90 mg/day (males) and 75 mg/day (females): Health Canada 2007[109]
* 60–95 milligrams per day: United States' National Academy of Sciences.[104]

The United States defined Tolerable Upper Intake Level for a 25-year-old male is 2,000 milligrams per day.
[edit] Therapeutic uses
Further information: Vitamin C and the common cold

Vitamin C functions as an antioxidant and is necessary for the treatment and prevention of scurvy, though in nearly all cases dietary intake is adequate to prevent deficiency and supplementation is not necessary.[110][111][112][113][114][115] Though vitamin C has been promoted as useful in the treatment of a variety of conditions, most of these uses are poorly supported by the evidence and sometimes contraindicated.[116][117][118][119] Vitamin C may be useful in lowering serum uric acid levels, resulting in a correspondingly lower incidence of gout.[120] Neither prophylactic nor therapeutic use is supported in the prevention or treatment of pneumonia.[121] People with a the highest levels of ascorbic acid in their blood stream seem to be at a significantly reduced risk of having a stroke and low ascorbic acid has been suggested as a way of identifying those at high risk of stroke. [122]

Vitamin C's effect on the common cold has been extensively researched. It has not been shown effective in prevention or treatment of the common cold, except in limited circumstances (specifically, individuals exercising vigorously in cold environments).[123][124][125] Routine vitamin C supplementation does not reduce the incidence or severity of the common cold in the general population, though it may reduce the duration of illness.[123][126][127]
[edit] Vitamin C megadosage
Main article: Vitamin C megadosage

Several individuals and organizations advocate large doses of vitamin C in excess of 10–100 times RDI in the form of oral or intravenous therapy.[128] Large, randomized clinical trials on the effects of high doses on the general population have never taken place. Arguments for megadosage are based on the diets of closely related apes, the hypothesized diet of prehistoric humans, and that most mammals synthesize vitamin C rather than relying on dietary intake. Linus Pauling spent much of his life advocating for the use of megadose vitamin C and believed the established RDA was sufficient to prevent scurvy, but not necessarily the dosage for optimal health.[129] Megadoses have been promoted for the treatment or prevention of various conditions, including cancer,[130][131][132][133] the common cold,[123] and coronary disease.[134] These uses are not supported by clinical evidence, and in some cases harm may result.[123][130][131][132][133][134]
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[edit] Adverse effects
[edit] Common side-effects

Relatively large doses of ascorbic acid may cause indigestion, particularly when taken on an empty stomach. However, taking vitamin C in the form of sodium ascorbate and calcium ascorbate may minimize this effect.[137] When taken in large doses, ascorbic acid causes diarrhea in healthy subjects. In one trial in 1936, doses up to 6 grams of ascorbic acid were given to 29 infants, 93 children of preschool and school age, and 20 adults for more than 1400 days. With the higher doses, toxic manifestations were observed in five adults and four infants. The signs and symptoms in adults were nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, flushing of the face, headache, fatigue and disturbed sleep. The main toxic reactions in the infants were skin rashes.[138]
[edit] Possible side-effects

As vitamin C enhances iron absorption,[139] iron poisoning can become an issue to people with rare iron overload disorders, such as haemochromatosis. A genetic condition that results in inadequate levels of the enzyme glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD) can cause sufferers to develop hemolytic anemia after ingesting specific oxidizing substances, such as very large dosages of vitamin C.[140]

There is a longstanding belief among the mainstream medical community that vitamin C causes kidney stones, which is based on little science.[141] Although recent studies have found a relationship,[142] a clear link between excess ascorbic acid intake and kidney stone formation has not been generally established.[143] Some case reports exist for a link between patients with oxalate deposits and a history of high-dose vitamin C usage.[144]

In a study conducted on rats, during the first month of pregnancy, high doses of vitamin C may suppress the production of progesterone from the corpus luteum.[145] Progesterone, necessary for the maintenance of a pregnancy, is produced by the corpus luteum for the first few weeks, until the placenta is developed enough to produce its own source. By blocking this function of the corpus luteum, high doses of vitamin C (1000+ mg) are theorized to induce an early miscarriage. In a group of spontaneously aborting women at the end of the first trimester, the mean values of vitamin C were significantly higher in the aborting group. However, the authors do state: 'This could not be interpreted as an evidence of causal association.'[146] However, in a previous study of 79 women with threatened, previous spontaneous, or habitual abortion, Javert and Stander (1943) had 91% success with 33 patients who received vitamin C together with bioflavonoids and vitamin K (only three abortions), whereas all of the 46 patients who did not receive the vitamins aborted.[147]

A study in rats and humans suggested that adding Vitamin C supplements to an exercise training program lowered the expected effect of training on VO2Max. Although the results in humans were not statistically significant, this study is often cited as evidence that high doses of Vitamin C have an adverse effect on exercise performance. In rats, it was shown that the additional Vitamin C resulted in lowered mitochondria production.[148] Since rats are able to produce all of their needed Vitamin C, however, it is questionable whether they offer a relevant model of human physiological processes in this regard.

A cancer-causing mechanism of hexavalent chromium may be triggered by vitamin C.[149]
[edit] Chance of overdose

Vitamin C is water soluble, with dietary excesses not absorbed, and excesses in the blood rapidly excreted in the urine. It exhibits remarkably low toxicity. The LD50 (the dose that will kill 50% of a population) in rats is generally accepted to be 11.9 grams per kilogram of body weight when given by forced gavage (orally). The mechanism of death from such doses (1.2% of body weight, or 1.8 lbs for a 150 lb human) is unknown, but may be more mechanical than chemical.[60] The LD50 in humans remains unknown, given lack of any accidental or intentional poisoning death data. However, as with all substances tested in this way, the rat LD50 is taken as a guide to its toxicity in humans.
[edit] Natural and synthetic dietary sources
Rose hips are a particularly rich source of vitamin C






ser du att det är lite mer komplicerat än att bara skriva "vitamin c- motverkar skörbjugg"

solari
2011-07-05, 22:17
tex att "Magnesium förhindrar musklerna att krampa,

Not true.

DANNE1988
2011-07-06, 21:42
kan ju ta vitamin C då som du redan visste vad den gjorde




ser du att det är lite mer komplicerat än att bara skriva "vitamin c- motverkar skörbjugg"

Lite förkortat kan man skriva att Vitamin C hjälper till att förbättra immunförsvaret, vilket jag tror är den största anledningen till varför folk käkar mycket Vitamin C.

DANNE1988
2011-07-06, 21:43
Not true.

"Magnesium är ett hett samtalsämne bland uthållighetsidrottare. Med all rätt. Flera undersökningar visar med all tydlighet att brist på magnesium gör att risken för muskelkramp och träningsvärk ökar, vilket i sin tur försämrar prestationsförmågan."

Pepz
2011-07-06, 22:22
Lite förkortat kan man skriva att Vitamin C hjälper till att förbättra immunförsvaret.

nej det gör den inte.

kroppen är oerhört komplex och vitaminerna har långt fler än en roll. att förenkla det till en kort kort mening är ogörbart

Fru_Flisa
2011-07-06, 23:22
kan ju ta vitamin C då som du redan visste vad den gjorde


Vart är informationen från?

internethjälten
2011-07-07, 00:29
kroppen är oerhört komplex och vitaminerna har långt fler än en roll. att förenkla det till en kort kort mening är ogörbart

Ibland tycker jag om dig extra mycket Pepz *cupid*

Fredrik_S
2011-07-07, 00:44
Desutom leder korta förklaringar till missuppfattningar.
vitamin c motverkar skörbjugg....
jaha vad bra det vill jag ju inte ha bäst att ta 1 c-vitamin om dagen(1000 mg i de flesta vilket kan jämföras med 70 mg som är rdi)

Magnesium motverkar kramp...
jaha vad bra jag vill ju inte ha kramp då går jag å köper magnesium

osv osv

slutsatsen man kommer fram till när man studerar det på egen hand i många år är att man inte bör ta ett endaste vitamintillskott och att man missar extremt mycket annat nyttigt om man byter ut grönsakerna och äggen mot piller...
Man ska vara en permanent grönsaks och ägg vägrare om man ska ha nytta av vitaminpiller. Annats tror jag det är precis lika stor chans att det är sämre som att det är bättre för kroppen att ta dom. Rena lotteriet

Sheogorath
2011-07-07, 05:41
Desutom leder korta förklaringar till missuppfattningar.
vitamin c motverkar skörbjugg....
jaha vad bra det vill jag ju inte ha bäst att ta 1 c-vitamin om dagen(1000 mg i de flesta vilket kan jämföras med 70 mg som är rdi)

Magnesium motverkar kramp...
jaha vad bra jag vill ju inte ha kramp då går jag å köper magnesium

osv osv

slutsatsen man kommer fram till när man studerar det på egen hand i många år är att man inte bör ta ett endaste vitamintillskott och att man missar extremt mycket annat nyttigt om man byter ut grönsakerna och äggen mot piller...
Man ska vara en permanent grönsaks och ägg vägrare om man ska ha nytta av vitaminpiller. Annats tror jag det är precis lika stor chans att det är sämre som att det är bättre för kroppen att ta dom. Rena lotteriet

Även vitamin D i din mening?

Vinter
2011-07-07, 06:36
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki

Copy paste i sök så får du bas info.

Fredrik_S
2011-07-07, 07:02
Även vitamin D i din mening?

Ja, äter du ägg och fisk och mjölk lite då och då och är i solen med ansiktet 6-8 minuter 2-3 gånger i veckan ska det räcka.
Gör du inte det supplementera.

Nitrometan
2011-07-07, 08:10
och är i solen med ansiktet 6-8 minuter 2-3 gånger i veckan ska det räcka.
Även här uppe i norr där solen står lågt på himlen halva året?

Eddie Vedder
2011-07-07, 08:41
Ja, äter du ägg och fisk och mjölk lite då och då och är i solen med ansiktet 6-8 minuter 2-3 gånger i veckan ska det räcka.
Gör du inte det supplementera.

Varför just 6-8 minuter 2-3 gånger i veckan? Det lät så konkret menar jag, har du läst specifikt om de tidsintervallen för att maximera D-vitaminupptag? Och hur stor del av kroppen exponeras?

Nitrometan
2011-07-07, 08:54
Ansiktet sa han. Tydligen räcker det.

Eddie Vedder
2011-07-07, 09:07
Ansiktet sa han. Tydligen räcker det.

Oj missade det. Det är emellertid nytt för mig, jag erinrar mig siffror kring 30% men det kan ju ha visat sig felaktigt.

Fredrik_S
2011-07-07, 09:34
Livsmedelsverkets hemsida

"Hur får man tillräckligt med D-vitamin?
Att få solljus på ansikte, armar och ben 2-3 gånger/vecka, cirka 6-8 minuter per gång, anses tillräckligt för att täcka behovet av D-vitamin."

http://www.slv.se/sv/Fragor--svar/Fragor-och-svar/Mat-och-naring/Fragor-och-svar-om-D-vitamin/

Men läste ju fel förlåt. armar och ben skulle vara med vilket då blir 30% av kroppen

Maod
2011-07-07, 09:40
"Magnesium är ett hett samtalsämne bland uthållighetsidrottare. Med all rätt. Flera undersökningar visar med all tydlighet att brist på magnesium gör att risken för muskelkramp och träningsvärk ökar, vilket i sin tur försämrar prestationsförmågan."

Är detta ett citat? Varifrån i så fall?!

Eddie Vedder
2011-07-07, 10:23
Livsmedelsverkets hemsida

"Hur får man tillräckligt med D-vitamin?
Att få solljus på ansikte, armar och ben 2-3 gånger/vecka, cirka 6-8 minuter per gång, anses tillräckligt för att täcka behovet av D-vitamin."

http://www.slv.se/sv/Fragor--svar/Fragor-och-svar/Mat-och-naring/Fragor-och-svar-om-D-vitamin/

Men läste ju fel förlåt. armar och ben skulle vara med vilket då blir 30% av kroppen

Då pratar SLV om RDI. Vilket jag inte utgår ifrån. Jag tror inte RDI enligt dagens siffror är ett tillräckligt intag helt enkelt.

DANNE1988
2011-07-07, 15:10
Är detta ett citat? Varifrån i så fall?!

Hittade det på en random hemsida som såg pålitlig ut, har också hört detta från många håll.

Sniggel
2011-07-08, 12:07
Hittade det på en random hemsida som såg pålitlig ut, har också hört detta från många håll.

Magnesium kanske det finns en vits med att använda

http://www.kolozzeum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97952&highlight=tae+kwon+magnesium

Maod
2011-07-08, 13:17
Det är en enorm skillnad på att skriva "Magnesium förhindrar kramp" och "Brist på magnesium ökar risken för kramp".

Känns som det måste vara ganska extrema förhållanden för att man skall få magnesiumbrist.

Tollesson
2011-07-08, 14:46
Läs vitaminbibeln, så får du ytliga grunder om rubbet.